Social Welfare Jobs in Greater London
Prospectus is delighted to be working with the Royal Osteoporosis Society (ROS) to support the search for a Corporate Partnerships Manager to join the Fundraising team. The Corporate Partnerships Manager will be looking after a portfolio of longstanding five-figure partnerships and will focus particularly on building new business relationships.
This role is offered on a permanent, full-time (part-time considered) basis paying a salary of £39,083 per annum. This role can be fully remote or hybrid. We will consider applications from candidates who wish to work remotely dependent on geographic location or, on a hybrid basis enabling you to work remotely with the expectation to attend the Bath office at least 20% of your time each month.
The Corporate Partnerships Manager will engage with and steward existing partnerships with support from the Head of Fundraising and Director of Fundraising. The organisation has done some thorough research to identify areas of potential new business and has prepared tools and collateral to support new business approaches. A key focus of this role is to proactively make approaches and initiate new relationships.
The ideal candidate will be eager to initiate and successfully secure new business partnerships for the ROS. The candidate will need to have examples of doing so within a previous role/organisation. ROS’ team of experts in their field and talented fundraisers are looking for someone who will bring their own ideas and collaborate across teams. There is no need to have knowledge surrounding Osteoporosis already but a willingness to learn is essential.
At Prospectus we invest in your journey as a candidate and are committed to supporting you with your application. We welcome candidates from a diverse range of backgrounds and we are happy to make any reasonable adjustments to enable all interested candidates to apply. Please contact Femke Vorstman at Prospectus.
If you are interested in this position, please submit your CV in the first instance. Should your experience be suitable, we will send you the full job description and will arrange for a call and/or meeting to brief you on the role. You’ll then have all the information you need to formally apply. We are looking forward to connecting with you soon.
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The role will support the organisation with with social media management, content creation, campaign support, community management, evaluation, and team coordination
Key responsibilities:
- Develop platform-specific content, including TikTok videos, member stories, and explanatory content on the Charities purpose
- Assist in community management on social media platforms, including responding to comments, messages, and engaging with followers
- Assist regions, branches, and activists with social media campaign distribution, media library administration, and content creation
- Produce regular social media reports to assess member engagement and content performance
- Manage the organisation team on Canva, consisting of regional, service group, and staff comms, to ensure consistency and quality in visual assets
- Work with all teams within the Communications unit and Press team to design and produce engaging social media content and assets
- Provide temporary staff cover for digital roles as required
Successful candidate profile:
- Proficiency in social media management and content creation, including video editing.
- Creative skills and initiative to generate new social content
- Experience in repurposing press releases and editorial content for social media
- Strong communication skills – written and verbal
- Experience with Canva or similar design tools for team coordination and visual asset creation.
Agency Reference Number: J80687
Working pattern: Hybrid, 2/3 days in the office per week
Location: Central London
Duration: 3 month initial contract (likelihood of extension)
Daily Rate: £154-175 PAYE inclusive of holiday pay
This vacancy will be actively shortlisted so early applications are encouraged to avoid missing out.
Venn Group is an equal opportunities employment business and employment agency and welcomes applications from all candidates
Prospectus is delighted to be working with the Fidelity UK and International Foundations to recruit a Finance Manager
The Fidelity UK and international Foundations are independent grant-making Foundations, proudly supported by Fidelity International. The Foundations have four Programmes, which focus on supporting high-impact charitable organisations in the fields of: tackling disadvantage among children and young people; health and wellbeing; arts, culture and heritage; and environmental conservation. Priority regions/countries for the Foundations’ work include: the UK, Republic of Ireland, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, India and Australia.
The Foundations’ approach to grant-making is distinctive, in that they focus on capacity building to strengthen the impact, effectiveness and/or sustainability of non-profit organisations so they can thrive and fulfil their charitable goals. More information about the Foundations and their approach to grant-making can be found on their website.
The role:
The purpose of this role is to ensure effective, efficient and accurate day-to-day financial management and financial controls for the Fidelity UK and international Foundations, including leading on management reporting, budgeting, forecasting and cashflow planning and delivering the annual reports and accounts for all four Foundations. The post holder will prepare all finance papers for Board and Finance and Investment Subcommittee meetings and will support the oversight of the Foundations’ investment portfolios. This role will also be responsible for managing all payments made by the Foundations, in addition to ensuring risk and compliance guidelines are adhered to at all times.
The person
The successful applicant will have a detailed knowledge of accounting principles, ideally with experience of the charitable sector, and a strong track record of day-to-day financial management in a comparable role. You will have strong analytical skills and be able to demonstrate both operational and strategic thinking. You will have a proficiency in accounting (with a relevant finance qualification) and will be able to evidence the successful production of annual accounts and monthly reporting, ensuring monitoring against budgets. Additionally, you will have strong analytical and reporting skills, exceptional attention to detail, excellent communication and presentation skills, and hands-on experience of explaining complex financial information clearly and concisely. Finally, you will have a high degree of humility and a collaborative style and will be able to pro-actively manage a diverse workload on your own initiative.
This role represents a superb opportunity for the right person to play a key role in ensuring the successful running of a significant grant-making organisation that supports non-profit organisations across diverse themes and contexts.
As a specialist Recruitment Practice, we are committed to building inclusive and diverse organisations, and welcome applications from all sections of the community. We invest in your journey as a candidate and are committed to supporting you in your application.
Prospectus is delighted to be working with Your Place for their new Senior IT Operations Officer. Your Place's mission is to build hope and enable lasting change to end homelessness for people in east London. They are a growing charity, helping people who've lost their homes to regain their self-belief and rebuild their lives.
Please note this is a part time role (3-4 days) being offered on a permanent basis.
As the Senior IT Operations Officer, you will be the welcoming face for new team members, ensuring they're equipped and trained on systems for a seamless onboarding experience.
Additionally, the Senior IT Operations Officer will be responsible for coordinating, planning and leading IT-related services and activities and developing IT related policies and procedures. The role will also provide technical and administrative support to departments and users to ensure that they can make optimum use of the organisation’s IT networks, systems, and associated hardware and software.
You will be responsible for promoting digitalisation initiatives across the organisation and have the responsibility for managing the IT budget and procurement, overseeing implementation and maintenance of IT systems and technologies that support strategic and digitalisation aspirations.
This role will work with members of all teams across the organisation with a particular emphasis on the Strategic Management Team (SMT).
To be considered for this role will possess excellent IT skills, especially in Office 365 and Windows 10 Pro. You should know your way around computer systems, how to keep them secure, and how to manage networks and databases with hands-on experience with computers, networks, and cloud-based systems. Furthermore, the ideal candidate will have excellent communication skills and will enjoy training and onboarding new team members, ensuring a smooth transition into the organisation.
This is a great opportunity for IT professionals to contribute to a noble cause and make a meaningful impact.
As a specialist Recruitment Practice, we are committed to building inclusive and diverse organisations, and welcome applications from all sections of the community. We invest in your journey as a candidate and are committed to supporting you in your application.
Harris Hill are delighted to be working with a UK-wide social enterprise who supports the most marginalised in society to recruit an Individual Giving Officer. The role raises unrestricted income from individuals by planning and executing the day-to-day campaigns to recruit, engage and retain supporters.
Key responsibilities will include;
- Creating, planning, delivering and evaluating multi-channel, insight-led, supporter-centric campaigns. This will include both acquisition and retention campaigns.
- Managing production of supporter material, including email acquisition & retention campaigns, social media posts, website content, print advertising, direct mail and inserts.
- Working collaboratively with internal stakeholders and liaise with external agencies and suppliers to effectively deliver projects and campaigns.
- Working with colleagues to identify individual stories that can be crafted into impactful content for use in contribution marketing campaigns.
- Innovation - Manage a continuous cycle of testing new channels and developing acquisition and retention for individual giving, based on audience insight and sector trends.
The successful candidate will have experience of;
- income generation from direct marketing campaigns (acquisition and/or retention) across a variety of offline and digital channels
- effective campaign copy writing
- project management to deliver acquisition or retention campaigns
- using databases for targeting, segmentation, testing and response analysis and how to apply these learnings to future campaigns
- managing and monitoring external suppliers and agencies
This position can be either a hybrid role if commutable to the North London Head Office OR remote for candidates based across the UK who want to work from home.
Applications will be reviewed on a rolling basis so for more information about this position and next steps please apply here now.
As leading charity recruitment specialists and a certified B Corp™, Harris Hill is committed to high and ever-improving standards of equitable and inclusive recruitment. We actively welcome applications from all sections of the community regardless of age, disability, gender, race, religion, sexuality and other protected characteristics.
I am delighted to be working with a fantastic support charity in search of a Recruitment Coordinator. This is a 6-month FTC with amazing benefits, the role is a part-time (21 – 28hrs per week), London based hybrid role. As Recruitment Coordinator you will pay a key role in the People Team, providing a professional, comprehensive, and proactive recruitment service. You will be the first point of contact for recruitment related queries for managers and candidates, be responsible for the full recruitment cycle, and support the HR Officer with the onboarding process.
Key accountabilities:
Successful management of the recruitment process and actively support recruiting managers at all stages of the recruitment process
Accurate record keeping of all recruitment and related activity
Work with recruiting managers to create recruitment packs and agree timelines, panels and routes to attraction.
Ensure all approved vacancies are shared onto appropriate advertising platforms
Coordinate dates and times of interviews with panel members and candidates
Liaise with external stakeholders (e.g. recruitment agencies and other digital or online platforms)
Manage the recruitment inbox
Provide ad hoc administrative support to the People Team.
If you have the above skills and experience and are immediately available, please apply online today, I would love to have a conversation with you!
The Rugby Portobello Trust (RPT) is a North Kensington charity that has been supporting children, young people and families from all across west London since 1884. Through arts, sport, music, mentoring and support in academics, employment, mental health and wellbeing, we help children and young people in our community to overcome barriers to reach their full potential. We have a team of around 40 staff members and we support more than 1,300 children, young people and families every year. We run services six days per week and we are supported by more than 200 volunteers and 1,500 local funders. The Rugby Portobello Trust is a part of the national charity People Potential Possibilities (P3 Charity).
This is a really exciting time for the charity as we celebrate our 140th anniversary and look towards our next phase of development to ensure we’re offering the best possible support to the next generation in our community. To do this, we are recruiting for a Director of Youth and Family Services to lead and manage operational service delivery and the delivery of our outreach and community engagement in and around west London. The Director will ensure the delivery of excellent services through innovation and co-production and foster an organisational culture that strengthens our brand and stays true to the values and mission of RPT and P3 Charity. You will embed a people-first, values-based ethos and maintain an environment where safeguarding is central. You will support the retention and development of both existing and new programmes in conjunction with the Director of Fundraising & Communications and in line with the values and strategic vision of the organisation. In addition, you will be an integral member of P3’s Senior Leadership Team, manage a number of operational leads, and work closely with the Chief Operating Officer to support the development and long-term vision of RPT and P3 Charity.
The successful candidate will have previous experience delivering community services and will enjoy working in a busy, vibrant environment. A people person at heart, you will be able to build relationships at all levels and be confident acting as an ambassador for the charity. You will be solutions focused with experience of delivering strategies for change and providing excellent strategic leadership. You will also be well versed in providing operational leadership and ensuring the wellbeing and safety of all stakeholders and staff. This is a fantastic opportunity to join a friendly, passionate team and we are looking for someone who will bring the same level of passion for our mission.
Rugby Portobello Trust are partnering with Prospectus to recruit for this vacancy. To apply please submit your CV and a two page supporting statement, preferably in Microsoft Word/PDF format. The statement should outline your motivation for joining RPT and why you feel you would be a good fit for this role. You should also demonstrate your experience and skillset with examples relating to the Who We Need section in the Appointment Brief. If you have any further questions or would like to know more about this opportunity please contact Steven Fraser from Prospectus.
As a specialist Recruitment Practice Prospectus are committed to building inclusive and diverse organisations, and welcome applications from all sections of the community. Prospectus invest in your journey as a candidate and are committed to supporting you in your application.
We are looking for a Trust Fundraiser and Case Support Officer to join a team with a well known national health and social welfare charity, to secure income from medium-sized grant-giving charitable trusts and foundations.
This is a hybrid role with one day a week in the London office.
The Charity
A warm and collaborative charity, dedicated to supporting people through the most difficult times of their lives from palliative and bereavement care to supporting families with the loss of a loved one.
You will be joining a highly respected organisation, with an inclusive working culture, offering fantastic benefits including structured induction programme and learning and development opportunities to aid career progression, 27 days holiday - rising to 33 with length of service plus bank holidays and a company pension scheme as well as much more.
The Role
Join a team of four to research new trust opportunities, provide first class stewardship to a portfolio of donors, seeking to retain them as well as uplift their donations, wherever possible.
Carft compelling funding applications to secure gifts ranging from £10-30k.
Support service information requests from fundraising teams and translate them into project briefs and compelling case for support materials.
Maintain accurate, up to date and comprehensive records of trusts on the fundraising database or CRM system (currently Raisers Edge).
The Candidate
Experience of securing gifts of over 10k from trusts.
Experience of maintaining relationships with funders and providing tailored donor care and stewardship plans.
Experience of project-based fundraising and the development of restricted and unrestricted propositions within a fundraising team .
Experience of developing pipelines of trust income and activity.
IMPORTANT NOTE
Please note this charity will interview on a rolling basis, so do get in touch ASAP to find out more.
Our aim is to respond to all successful applications within 5 days. If you havent been contacted within 5 days your application has been unsuccessful, but we positively encourage you to apply for any other positions that you may see in the future.
We apologise that we cannot contact everybody in person but thank you in advance for your interest.
Third Solutions encourages applications from individuals of all ages & backgrounds. Appointment will be made on merit alone but candidates must be able to demonstrate their ability to work in the UK. Third Solutions acts as an employment agency for permanent recruitment & an employment business for temporary recruitment as defined by the Conduct of Employment Agencies & Employment Business Regulations 2003.
Prospectus is excited to be working on behalf of an organisation that strives to improve self-government processes around the world through partnering with local institutions that support political engagement.
As the Head of Business Development and Funding Partnerships, you will lead on the implementation of multi-year Business Development Strategy. You will proactively identify, liaise with and manage relationships with current or potential strategic global donors on business development-related processes and opportunities and consortia partners.
This is a UK-based with the option for remote working. This role will require occasional travel to HQ in London to fulfil operational requirements and the salary for the position is £53,000 - £62,000 per annum.
To be successful, you will have substantial experience of business development, commercial insight, programme design, and bid development. You will have a proven track record of securing high value contracts and grants from institutional donors.
At Prospectus we invest in your journey as a candidate and are committed to supporting you with your application. We welcome candidates from a diverse range of backgrounds. Please let us know if we can help you with the application process in any way. We are more than happy to make any reasonable adjustments to enable all interested candidates to apply. If you have any disability and would like assistance with completing an application then please contact Ariha Semontee at Prospectus.
If you are interested in this position, please submit your CV in the first instance. Should your experience be suitable, we will send you the full job description and will arrange for a call and/or meeting to brief you on the role. You’ll then have all the information you need to formally apply. We are looking forward to connecting with you soon.
Prospectus is delighted to be working with Ripple Effect to recruit an Individual Giving Manager.
Ripple Effect is a dynamic and passionate international development charity on a mission to create a powerful and lasting impact. Their vision is to see a rural Africa that is confident, thriving, and sustainable, with a growing economy and higher living standards for all. Ripple Effect have honed their focus on three critical areas: Farm Systems, Gender and Social Inclusion, and Enterprise Development. Through these pillars, they're dedicated to combating poverty and nurturing a vibrant, thriving African landscape that will flourish for generations to come.
In this role, you'll be immersed in an active environment where your skills in direct marketing and fundraising will be put to the test. From analysing data and managing an activity budget, to forging strategic partnerships with agencies, you'll play a vital role in expanding Ripple Effect’s reach and impact. Collaborating across teams and borders, you'll lead projects that shape engaging supporter journeys, fostering meaningful connections with their cause.
Desirable experiences include planning and executing cash fundraising appeals, planning engagement opportunities for supporters and customers such as events, and showcasing your digital marketing prowess. Whether it's crafting compelling copy or building relationships to inspire action, you'll be at the heart of all Ripple Effect’s communication efforts.
At Prospectus we invest in your journey as a candidate and are committed to supporting you with your application. We welcome all candidates to apply, regardless of age, sex/gender, disability, race, religion, sexual orientation, marital status or pregnancy/maternity. If you have any disability and require reasonable adjustment/s to any part of the process then please contact Jessica Stoddart at Prospectus.
If you feel you meet some of the criteria but not all, we really hope you'll enquire and learn more. Prospectus can advise and support on each part of the role and hopefully your application, so we look forward to hearing from you. To apply please submit your CV in the first instance. Should your experience be suitable, we will arrange for a meeting to brief you on the role. You'll then have all the information you need to formally apply.
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Across the country, in every city and on every street, RBL is there to support our Armed Forces community as the UK's leading Armed Forces charity. The Royal British Legion is looking for an experienced manager to lead their philanthropy, mid value and trusts function and make a difference to the lives of those who have served to keep us safe and protect our way of life.
The Head of High Value Giving will come in to a portfolio with huge potential and a solid base to build from. The successful candidate will own and lead the high value programme, be the in-house expert and transform high value giving to fund crucial services for the armed forces community,
The post holder will have the experience, energy, and expertise to recognise the vast opportunity within the team and take the programme to the next level. They will lead by example in cultivating both UK based and international trusts and develop relationships with key stakeholders to build out a major donor programme, whilst overseeing an amazing team to continue to deliver brilliant results.
If you are an ambitious and proactive fundraiser, with high value fundraising or trust experience, this is a fantastic opportunity to lead the High Value team at the Royal British Legion.
The selection process for this role includes a candidate screening call with a member of the THINK Recruitment team. To arrange a call please refer to the information in the Candidate Pack.
With over 60 years' experience of recruiting across the 'beyond profit' space, Prospectus is proud to have supported a vast number of charities across various sectors, including; Homelessness & Housing, Domestic Violence, Youth, Learning Disabilities / Disabilities, Mental Health, Sexual Health, Criminal Justice and Children & Families. As a result, we anticipate an uplift in the amount of exciting delivery-focussed temporary opportunities we will have available to offer candidates.
We have worked alongside a range of impactful organisations in London and across the UK, supporting them with a variety of delivery-focussed positions, including:
Recovery Practitioners, Support Workers and Floating Support Workers, Women's Advocates, Administrators, Community Outreach Workers, Mental Health and Wellbeing Practitioners and many more.
We are currently looking to increase our pool of temporary candidates who are interested in registering for future delivery-focussed opportunities. Candidates will have had previous paid or voluntary experience in a similar role supporting vulnerable people, or will have a genuine interest in this field.
Please note that due to the current climate for temporary work across the Frontline sector, we are initially looking to engage with potential candidates and carry out registrations online with those that demonstrate suitable experience.
Given the unprecedented volume of interest in our roles, consultants are unable to support with general job search advice or specific enquiries before application. Instead please do either register your CV on our website or submit your CV for any roles that interest you to ensure that your application is reviewed in line with the position. Should you be successfully longlisted or we are able to assist in your job search we will be in contact to discuss next steps.
Please register your interest below and submit your CV by clicking 'apply now' below. You must be available immediately or have no more than a 1 week notice period to be considered as the majority of our temporary positions are starting asap.
Our client, a leading London university, is looking to recruit a full-time (35 hours per week) temporary Programme Officer to support them during this busy time. This post will be Monday-Friday, and the post will be eligible for hybrid working, normally 2 days per week onsite, although on occasion 3 days may be required for covering the enquiries desk. Flexibility will be required, and preferred days can be requested for being onsite, although is not guaranteed, as will be dependent on business needs. They are looking for someone to join them as soon as possible, and will be ongoing for now, so would anticipate 3 months +
In this post, duties will include the following:
- Respond to students’ and academics’ enquiries (face-to-face and via email) within agreed timeframes.
- Process assessment extension/deferral requests.
- Work with senior programme officers to support student assessment processes.
- Facilitate student module selection processes.
- Use systems and databases (e.g. student records systems and virtual learning environments)
To be considered for this post, you will have worked within a similar post, including the following criteria:
- Excellent organisational and time management skills
- Ability to work independently and take initiative.
- Ability to work as part of a team and relate to a broad range of stakeholders in a professional and assured manner.
- Excellent written and oral communication skills, including the ability to draft documents and correspondence.
- Strong numeracy skills and the ability to analyse complex data.
- Excellent working knowledge of Microsoft Office (including Excel) and the ability to quickly learn new systems.
- Excellent attention to detail and the ability to maintain a high level of accuracy at all times.
- Understanding of good customer service, and ability deliver this to a high standard.
The post is looking to start as soon as possible, and so you will need to be available at short notice, or immediately for consideration.
If you are interested in finding out more information about this new opportunity, please register your interest below and submit your CV by clicking 'apply now' below.
Prospectus is delighted to be working with Carers UK to help them recruit for a Trusts and Foundations Manager. Carers UK is the leading national charity for unpaid carers. Their support, advice, information and campaigning work are now needed more than ever, as unpaid carers are providing more and more care, adversely impacting on their own health and wellbeing. They exist to make life better for carers and bring about lasting change.
This role is offered on a permanent, full-time basis paying a salary of £38,926 - £42,725 per annum. This is a hybrid role in London with 1 day a week in the office.
Carers UK are reviewing applications and interviewing on a rolling basis so please do apply now and we will be in touch!
The Trusts and Foundations Manager will further develop and review their current trusts and foundations strategy, with a focus on growing and renewing five- and six-figure income from Trusts, Foundations and grant making bodies. This is an ideal role for an experienced and collaborative Trust fundraiser, capable of developing long-lasting relationships and build compelling cases for support that secure transformational donations for an iconic institution.
The ideal candidate will have proven experience of writing successful and compelling proposals and applications to Trusts and Foundations and securing multi year funding. You will also have demonstrable experience of working across an organisation to develop fundraising bids and reports.
At Prospectus we invest in your journey as a candidate and are committed to supporting you with your application. We welcome candidates from a diverse range of backgrounds. Please let us know if we can help you with the application process in any way. We are more than happy to make any reasonable adjustments to enable all interested candidates to apply. If you have any disability and would like assistance with completing an application then please contact Ariha Semontee at Prospectus.
If you are interested in this position, please submit your CV in the first instance. Should your experience be suitable, we will send you the full job description and will arrange for a call and/or meeting to brief you on the role. You’ll then have all the information you need to formally apply. We are looking forward to connecting with you soon.
MLC Partners are pleased to be partnering with Morden College to recruit their new Finance Manager.
An organisation rich in history, the charity has been at the forefront of supporting older people’s lives for more than 300 years. They have more than 250 older peoples in alms house accommodation in Blackheath and Beckenham and have a small 28-bed care home on their Blackheath site. Morden College are committed to providing services that support their residents to live independent and healthy lives.
The organisation is embarking on a finance process review, in order to improve their ways of working. With plans in place to upgrade their finance and CRM systems the role would suit a change-focussed individual.
Reporting into the Finance Director, the role is a key member of the team with responsibility of three staff, and the involvement in the strategic vision of the finance team. With their main base in Blackheath, the role is hybrid and strives to offer as much flexibility as possible, including a wide-ranging benefits package.
Main responsibilities of the role:
- Ensure the completion of all month end processes and the timely delivery of the monthly management accounts.
- Liaise with key stakeholders to provide a responsive and compliant finance management operation.
- Support the improvement of processes and systems, ensuring robust policies are in place so the organisation can be fully digitised.
- Lead and manage a team of four, quality assuring their work, and guiding their careers and ensuring their continued development and nurturing great team culture.
- Support the Finance Director with the production of the annual financial statements, project managing the team to facilitate a smooth audit delivery across the main organisation as well as subsidiary accounts.
The successful candidate will:
- Be a fully qualified accountant, likely with experience from within the not-for-profit sector.
- Have experience driving change and improving processes and broader cultural change in a finance team.
- Be able to flex up and down from a hands-on perspective to also offer strategic insight to the Finance Director.
- Have significant experience working in a finance function with the knowledge of ‘what good looks like’.
- This is a great opportunity for an ambitious individual looking for a high impact role, with the ability to help shape an organisation for years to come.
As part of the Morden College team, you will be committed to challenging ageism, promoting healthy ageing, and combatting loneliness while promoting equity, diversity, and inclusion within communities. You will be comfortable with using technology to deliver consistent, equitable, and sustainable services at all times across the charity. You will be a role model for their values and be committed to a purposeful, responsible community that is a great place to live and work.
The closing date for applications is Wednesday 22nd May and first interviews will be held on the 4th and 5th of June. Please contact Jamie Elliott at MLC Partners for an informal discussion about the role.